Pet Meds

[Robert]

Jus Real simple. Why do some people tend to avoide such as meds as heart guard an frontline. Ive heard them called poisons.Why is this?

[Sam Aiden]

Hi, if you go to www.google.com and type in side effects of..........whatever , you will find a host of articles that will tell you why these and most other chemicals should be avoided. Frontline is pretty lethal and definitely to be avoided. It is known to cause many problems in dogs and cats. Basically if you can give holistic or homeopathic treatments rather than using chemicals it's safer for your animal in the long run.

[Robert]

Hi Sam Thank you very much, and welome back. I have not started roxie on frontline yet.So now that you you mentation it Roxie developed A fluidey type bump on the back of her neck (in augest) So I stoped useing it.The vet drained it an said it was from her shots in july An not caused the frontline. Just a little info for you. Thanks Bobby an Roxie

[Sam Aiden]

Hi again. It didn't say in your post about the vaccination or I probably would have been able to tell you that it is not unusual for this reaction. More so to the Rabies I find but it can happen with any injection site. I still would ask you to re-consider a different treatment for fleas than the chemical treatments as the reaction your pet has had to the vaccines would make me think the immune system could be a little compromised and putting anything more than you need into her is not something I'd suggest. For future, perhaps you could consider giving a vaccine detox after vaccines unless we can talk you out of those too :o

I rarely treat for fleas unless it is required. My own dog is 9 and never had a flea treatment nor a flea, perhaps pure luck but sometimes I wonder about all these treatments we get talked into. I also look at it like me giving you an aspirin just in case you get a headache in a week. If that makes sense. Having said that there are ways to treat a dog with fleas which are not harmful and certainly easy and cheap but to me this is a way of life so I tend to try and convince everyone about the damage chemicals and vaccines do to our pets. I lost my young horse to his first ever vaccine years ago, never forgave myself for doing that even though it was long before it was known about vaccine damaged and I had no Internet, No help and certainly nothing coming out to help from the vets so he led a very strange life up until the day he died. One vaccine did so much damage it was unbelievable but it is natural for us to want to protect our pets I know. Sometimes we can kill with kindness, overfeed, over vaccinate, over everything. I hope Roxie's lump goes down and at least now you know there is a chance this can happen and it will not be as frightening next time. Consider giving the vaccines 3 yearly like we do here in the UK, and sadly I know you have to give the Rabies vaccine but again there are precautions you can take homeopathically to prevent some damage. Nice to meet you also.

[Robert]

Sam I look foward to talking with you But for now i have 1:00 appomiment Bobby

[Grace Erick]

Sam, I suppose you have the same opinion of Adantix? I use that on my dog for fleas, ticks AND mosquitos. Is the information you found on Frontline from their packaging or other sources (for adverse reactions or fatalities)? I would like to look into seeing if Advantix is also dangerous.

I know on doggiedoor, they may have had holistic ways to treat fleas, ticks and mosquitos, but I don't know what they were. My dog did get fleas from my yard once. I guess it's from cats and squirrels that come into my yard. Fleas can cause worms, so I don't want to use something that is holistic, but not strong enough to really combate these problems.

[Missy Stewart]

You are so right Sam, over-vaccinating can become a VERY damaging scenario. My dog Sonny had a terrible reaction to his rabies vaccine that we are still dealing with many months later :(

This is an EXCELLENT link in my opinion on why vaccines should be used with caution and only when completely necessary. Please check it out, it is worth the read!

http://www.bogartsdaddy.com/bouvier/health/vaccination-concerns-uk.htm

As far as the Frontling, Advantix, etc... they are all basically the same idea. You are using a liquid pesticide to ward off fleas. When Sonny was a pup, I used Frontline ONE time and stopped! His skin turned black where I had used it and he bit at himself for over a month. It was terrible. He also lost appetite. I have not had a single problem with fleas... and have stayed completely away from these products.

Heartguard also has a bit of controveresy surrounding it b/c of the poisons that it uses to kill the microfilaria that could eventually develop into HW. When the pill is given every month, it is basically wiping out any baby larvea in the dogs system. Unfortunantly, the pill uses a poisin (that has given some dogs adverse effects) to do this. Furthermore... vets reccomend that you use it year round when many of us live in areas with hard winters. If I remember right, a temp must remain above 56 degrees for HW to develop, making it impossible to contract during the winter months.

Hope this helps

[David Crandall]

I know that in our city, rabies vaccinations are required by law to be updated annually if you want to register your dog (which is also required by law). In addition to that, if your dog needs to stay in a kennel, they have a whole list of things that he has to be vaccinated for (I should say that I'm not a fan of most kennels, but we've found one near us that's fantastic for when we go out of town; takes them out 6 times a day to play with other dogs, cleans them, etc).

Do you have any advice for dealing with either of those issues?

Dave

[Sam Aiden]

Dave, this one would take a bit of explaining so I'll do a short version. IF you have to vaccinate, we often give a homeopathic vaccine to match what the dog is getting at the vet, a few days before, on the day and a few days after plus a vaccine detox of some sort so this will help some of the side effects/chemicals although it is not the ideal situation obviously. The alternative is to get the dogs titered which means they get a special blood test done to see if their bodies are still carrying the anti bodies from previous vaccines. If they are, which is likely, then you get a certificate from the vet stating that they do not require vaccines and this should satisfy your kennels.
Hope that helps.

[David Crandall]

Sam,
Thanks for the reply. I like the idea of getting titers, and I'm smacking my forehead for not thinking of it before.

As for the homeopathic vaccines, what makes them different from traditional vaccines?

Dave

[Sam Aiden]

Hi Dave, homeopathic vaccines do not contain harmful chemicals that's it. If you read in the articles 'what's in a vaccine' that is what is NOT in homeopathic vaccines, that simple. Don't hit yourself too hard .....!