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Renee Premaza
06-16-2005, 10:26 PM
Hi Everybody!

I was really disappointed tonight when I came over to this topic to see what threads I could read. There's so little going on here and it's extremely important for people to know how to keep dogs safe with kids and how to keep kids safe with dogs.

For all of you parents out there, please click on this link to get very important and helpful information about safety issues with dogs and kids:

www.doggonesafe.com

Once you get to this fabulous website, get your printer ready and copy everything so that you and your family can read and re-read the information that's posted there.

How many parents out there don't realize how important it is to supervise young children when they're with their dogs at all times? Do any of you take your dogs and pups for granted and just let the dogs and kids play when they're alone in the livingroom? If that's what is happening in your home, please, please change this asap! Supervise, supervise, supervise if you have kids younger than 13 years old.

Did you know that statistics show that more kids get bitten in the face by their own family pet? And... the most common age of a child that gets bitten is 12 years old. The majority of children that do get bitten are 12 year old boys!

Another point I want to bring across is the importance of not letting your young children lie down on the floor when your puppies or adult dogs are in the same room. Why? Because when kids are down on the floor, dogs get very excited. When kids are playing on the floor, dogs view those children as their littermates. Wanna know how littermates play together? They play by biting each other on the faces. Young children should play with their canine pals by sitting on a chair or standing. Older, taller children can kneel while playing. Most importantly, a child should never be at the same facial level as the dog!

Are you allowing your kids to pull the dogs tail or ears? If the answer to this is, "yes," think twice before allowing a child to do this to any dog! Your dog might tolerate it, but be assured, he doesn't like it. So many of us think a dog should accept this childish behavior. But... why should we expect that? How would you like it if someone pulled your ears or your hair, or if someone sat on top of you when you were sleeping? I was called last week about an Akita who suddenly bit one of the children in the household. The Akita is 8 years old. The grandmother exclaimed that the kids could always do anything to the dog, and the dog never reacted like that before. I asked if the dog had ever growled at the children when they pulled his tail or sat on him. The answer was, "oh yes, all the time." So, the dog had been warning the kids for years! The boy that did get bitten agitated the dog one too many times. This dog is now 8 years old. The dog may be suffering from arthritis. As dogs get older, they get a bit crankier, as we humans get crankier too with age. It's completely inappropriate for humans to expect dogs to behave without expressing their feelings that they don't like something we're doing. Unfortunately, this dog may lose his life because of this bite.

How many of you listers out there have had a dog living with you for over 2 years, and now you're expecting a child? Are any of you preparing your dog for the arrival of your baby? Have you given any thought to how your dog will adjust to no longer being the "only child" in the house. Hopefully, within the next day or so, I will be posting some articles under a new topic of Kids and Dogs for you all to read. One of those articles will deal with teaching a dog to accept a new baby in the house.

If anyone would like to talk about this topic or if you have any questions, I'll make sure to revisit this forum often. If you have children and dogs and have experienced any aggression problems with your dog toward your children, please come over to the defensive dog forum and we can answer those questions for you there.

Thanks for reading this post.

Stefie C
06-17-2005, 08:25 AM
That's a great site Renee. Thanx for sharing. I'm glad to see I am already doing most of the things recommended to prevent a situation that could result in my dog biting a child. I'm going to forward the link to my brother who has 4 children under age 10 and a 10 month old Doberman puppy, Djano. Django has a sweet gentle temperment and my brother is putting a lot of time into his training but I'm afraid not as much effort is gong into teaching the kids how to treat him. I've seen the youngest one (age 3 1/2) poke my dog with a stick. I talked to him & tried to explain how to treat a dog but I knew he wasn't really paying attention & didn't really care. My own son (age 17) took matters into his own hands and told the 3 yr. old. if he poked our dog again he was gonna hurt him. Ten minutes later my nephew walked by Sandy and poked her again so my son poked him back. With his fist and knocked him into a wall. My nephew didn't cry but looked stunned & my son told him that's what's gonna happen every time you touch my dog. Probably not the best way to handle it but he didn't touch Sandy again for the rest of the week-end except for a supervised pet on the back. Anyway, that was when Django was a 4 month old puppy. Now that he is 80 lbs and still growing I've been even more worried about him and the kids. So I hope my brother will take the time to check out this web site and realize how important it is to educate the kids and make sure they know how to behave around dogs. Thanx again.

Renee Premaza
06-17-2005, 02:52 PM
Hi Stefie!

You said, "My own son (age 17) took matters into his own hands and told the 3 yr. old. if he poked our dog again he was gonna hurt him. Ten minutes later my nephew walked by Sandy and poked her again so my son poked him back. With his fist and knocked him into a wall. My nephew didn't cry but looked stunned & my son told him that's what's gonna happen every time you touch my dog. Probably not the best way to handle it but he didn't touch Sandy again for the rest of the week-end except for a supervised pet on the back."

Yikes! Actually, your son did what a lot of people would like to do when a child defies us. However, it could backfire big time. Kids do stuff like that for attention. I watched my own granddaughter intentionally try to get my Border Collie to bite her so we'd pay more attention to her (he was aggressive, but he belonged to my stepson and his family for 11 months before we took him). Kids can be a challenge, right? My concern about a human behaving like this with a child is that the child would then resent the dog for making a punishment happen to him. In fact, this is what does happen with dogs! Dogs learn by making associations. If a dog is given a leash pop, or smacked because he misbehaved around a child, and he's punished repeatedly around that child, the dog might then blame the child for his getting punished. So it's a double-edged sword.

I'm glad you're sending the doggone safe link to your brother :-)

That's a great site Renee. Thanx for sharing. I'm glad to see I am already doing most of the things recommended to prevent a situation that could result in my dog biting a child. I'm going to forward the link to my brother who has 4 children under age 10 and a 10 month old Doberman puppy, Djano. Django has a sweet gentle temperment and my brother is putting a lot of time into his training but I'm afraid not as much effort is gong into teaching the kids how to treat him. I've seen the youngest one (age 3 1/2) poke my dog with a stick. I talked to him & tried to explain how to treat a dog but I knew he wasn't really paying attention & didn't really care. My own son (age 17) took matters into his own hands and told the 3 yr. old. if he poked our dog again he was gonna hurt him. Ten minutes later my nephew walked by Sandy and poked her again so my son poked him back. With his fist and knocked him into a wall. My nephew didn't cry but looked stunned & my son told him that's what's gonna happen every time you touch my dog. Probably not the best way to handle it but he didn't touch Sandy again for the rest of the week-end except for a supervised pet on the back. Anyway, that was when Django was a 4 month old puppy. Now that he is 80 lbs and still growing I've been even more worried about him and the kids. So I hope my brother will take the time to check out this web site and realize how important it is to educate the kids and make sure they know how to behave around dogs. Thanx again.